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The following is  on the Westminster Lords-of-the-Blog computers - Lord Hylton's post about "Gulen" peace-initiative computers
awaiting 'moderation' [but not any sort of 'alteration']
before publication  :-


It not only is "challenging", Frank -
we are already almost irretrievably more than half-way down an increasingly steepening Slippery Slope.


We should have been both heard and obeyed by all and every Authority, Religion, and Leader -
instead they are intent upon even more destructively-efficiently "sawing off the branch we are all sitting on".


Incidentally it is also evident that every religion is also failing to holisticly-build the spiritual, mind, body, emotion and "social-togetherness" spirit of this world's Peoples.
For your "overopulation, I find it can be an easy and falsely expedient response""
and for other more seriously urgent world-views
please see "How Many People Can Live On Planet Earth" - and also your honestly-leading documentary 'USA-&-World predicament '
"Doomsday 2210"


if you want to see my deeper concerns
[one of them is already in the www and world-TV public within that Overpopulation issue, namely that
(") World War III will be fought for clean drinking water (")]
please visit not-for-profit, power, nor prestige e-sites


www, ; ; .


I won't "patronise" you with any kind of "Sorry, Frank" polite-ish talk,
I see the "Life on Earth Predicament" as possibly already being 'past-the-point-of-no-returm' -
Already - Disastrous
because not one Responsible Authority
nor Peace-Movement
nor Religion
has succeeded,
in "with-the-world-public" tackling and 'turning-around' the Mainstream-Runaway-Lifesupports-Destructive Juggernaut
that still increasingly is enveloping the whole planet.
Nevertheless, Frank
and All,








As "Sustainworthy-ers" we have submitted a response to the House of Lords's minoity
"two-way democratic reach-out direct to the worldwide public

which, because it will be delayed under their slow "moderation" process [qua "all-or-nothing" censorship]
but is primarily already the "property" of that same worldwide Public
your publishing-administratort here believes it a furtherf duty to appraise you the Public of its not-for-profit, power nor prestige 'greater-Intent':-



LOB hylton Non-published Letter to The Times on  (SYRIAN  MAJORITIES) :- (see


Our Comment by JSDM39B1 :-



and thank you for reminding us that we are all being steadily and insidiously-heavily "brain-washed"


and held subordinated to Media mind-exploitation and rhetorically semantic-trickery.




The Point I see 'lurking-between-the-lines'  here is that


1.  Rather like a quite recent Westminster Parliamentary Scrutiny Committee was told,
by two senior British Civil Servants when asked
"If we asked any level of civil-servant today 'What would be the best way of tackling this Problem we now have before us ?' - what would be their answer ?";


and the Top Secretary-level civil-servant replied:


"They would say 'Well sir, the way we are doing it now is the best way' ".


(Light laiughter all round) then one of the 'chiefs' added: 


"That would be because  the great majority of civil-servants have never known any other way".


 [The Committee 'smiled'; and was then 'wound-up'].






2.  "The Devil You Know Is Preferable to the One You Don't"
is no true-criterion for deciding a Government.




3.  Recall the great numbers of the German population


who had been "betrayed" by their historicly always strong and effective Government, which had sudden 'collapsed' into "weak-capitulation" from WW1;




and recall thereupon that that German-Peoples majority "preference"
for the strong-new-leadership of the deluded Hitler-&-Henchmen,
 turned out to be Non-Sustain-Worthy and an even greater Disaster than Germany's WW1 capitulation..




{Here in Britain we are beginning to feel the probable 'flaws' in not only our


clear-majority "Brexit Vote", but we can't trust "Remaining" either, nor any other course open to us} [***]




{ *** Yet so far also


neither our Traditional-Establishment


nor the overwhelming majority of our Citizenry




have "ever heard of such a thing" as a


"Peaceful British Self-and-Civilisation Sustainworthy-ing and Holistic Health Building Re-Settlement Estates Trust"


- as a quickly-confirmable, easily affordable, and longest-term stratgegic Way-Ahead".


Note: Such has been already suggested and design-notes sketched, in the two Not-for-Profit Power nor Prestige websites  and .}




That apparent Syrian majority is caught between the Devil and the Deep-Blue-Sea"


and so people are "sticking" rather than "risking busting". 



The Gulen movement in Turkey

Lord Hylton

The Gülen Movement in Turkey: The Politics of Islam and Modernity

by Caroline Tee.  Published IB Tauris 2016 (272 pages)

I commend the review of this book of page 24 of The Tablet for 7th January 2017.  Laurent Mignon, the reviewer, recalls the Gülen Movement’s Sufi background and the influence of the Kurdish Sunni theologian Said Nursi.

The movement is unusual in emphasizing the compatibility of modern science and Islam, and by putting this into practice in its schools and universities. It was for a long time the ally of the Justice & Development Party (AKP) and its predecessors in Turkey.  Fethullah Gülen, the inspirer of the movement, feared for his safety in Turkey and fled to USA in 1997.

Some years after that, relations with the political party became tense. The result was that the attempted coup d’etat of 2016 was blamed by the Government on the Gülenists and their Hizmet Movement.  Since then they have been severely persecuted in Turkey. It is also remarkable that the movement prizes the conservative values that exist in Judaism, Christianity and Islam, but at the same time encourages interfaith dialogue and cooperation.  This is most noticeable in Britain, the US, and Australia.


1 comment for “The Gulen movement in Turkey”

  1. 11/01/2017 at 10:42 pm

    The only way I can attempt any sort of ‘grasp’ of that Situation
    is to focus upon the term “Movement”:

    the lifelong-challenges of individual human movement –

    which begin in the womb
    where among other ‘shortcomings’ for instance the mother’s possible ‘need’ to wear ‘corseits’ has already ‘impaired’ the human-baby.

    Then our human-movement handicap is not-remedied the bio-evolutionary species-necessity of premature-birth;

    and then the scientific fact that (“) the human animal is the only one on Earth that is born not knowing how to move itself to keep itself alive(“);

    and then the subsequent avoidance by every educational, Governmental and Religious organisation
    of its Divine-Duty to thoroughly (“holisticlv”) nurture
    and co-consciously educate and maintain
    each and every “sacramentally-divine-human-energy” in each and every human ‘ward or dependent’;
    [as in the 7 Sacraments,
    which and the “lay world” somato-psychicly cares for in their practical inner-functions of
    “Grounding; Centering; Boundarying; Bonding; Sounding; Facing; and Spacing, one’s inwardly-being and outwardly-relating self] .

    All of which comes down to
    “the Health and ‘Divinity’ of a People is dependent upon the success and upon failures,
    by ruling organised Bodies, Civilisations, and Religions
    to support, educate, and maintain
    every-one of its people, all of the time,
    in the
    “co-building of their movement-abilities
    as the main basis for their co-building of their 7-fold holistic-health levels”.
    It is surely salutary that no civilised organisation in History has yet succeeded in this latter Divine as well as “Peace-Buildingly Practical” Duty, isn’t it ?

    And yet surely with just a small amount of time and cooperative-effort, such Peace-Maintaining Individual and Civilisational Holistic Health,
    could be begun and maintained ?

    And maintained without any-one or Any-Body having to “flee into hiding”
    and to “seek sanctuary” in other Countries
    and in Specially-Exclusive Life-Respecting Bodies ?



... May I suggest { take this "baton" and "run" } ...





Currently still open-to-the-public the 'Lord Berkeley' issue of HS2

Labour Ditches Disabled People

Baroness Deech

I had the privilege of chairing a Lords Select Committee on Disability and Equality in 2015-16, and wrote about it here – After a year of work, the opportunity presented itself last week of achieving one of our key recommendations, by securing an amendment to the Policing and Crime Bill, currently making its way through the Lords. The substance of it was that licensing authorities would be required, when licensing premises such as restaurants, clubs and pubs, to check that they were reasonably accessible to disabled people (elderly people too). Under current law, premises are already checked for the protection of children, public safety, the prevention of public nuisance and crime and disorder, so this would add little to the paperwork. In any case, it is a legal requirement to allow for reasonable accessibility. The problem has been the lack of ready enforcement.  Currently, if a disabled person finds they cannot access premises, the burden is on them to complain and maybe take legal action, a heavy burden. If applicants for licences had to think about accessibility on a regular basis, and mainstream it into their maintenance of the premises, it would be far less likely that a disabled person would turn up only to discover that they are blocked, with the distress that might cause. The amendment would also have had the result that the enforcement burden would shift to the licensing authority. You can read about it here

Who could possibly not favour such a proposal? Well, the government did not, because of “burdens on businesses” and alleged duplication of the law (not so, because this amendment would have made the necessary adjustments anticipatory, rather than after the fact). Hardly surprising so far.  The real shock was that Labour Lords were told to abstain.  Why? Apparently their “strategy” is to select which amendments to defeat the government on, and this was not going to be one of them.  So we lost the amendment 177 to 135.  14 brave Labour Lords rebelled and supported us.  The rest, I suspect, had no idea what was going on, had not understood the impact of the amendment and simply did as they were told.  Crossbenchers and LibDems were overwhelmingly on side. A few more Labour or Tory rebels and we would have been there.  It passes my understanding that the party that alleges that it stands for “fairness, equality and social justice” (quote from Labour Party website) could not be bothered to go into the lobby for disabled people and their basic human rights of participating in society on an equal footing with everyone else.

I cannot overstate the dismay of campaigners for disabled people and all those who have been trying to get a better deal for them, and for the elderly (we all get infirm in the end). I paraphrase Kinnock’s 1983 speech when he was campaigning against the election of Mrs. Thatcher: If you are relying on Labour, I warn you not to be disabled; I warn you not to grow old; I warn you not to be blind and not to be deaf.

A shameful episode.



2 comments for “Labour Ditches Disabled People”

  1. Celia Thomas
    19/12/2016 at 4:04 pm

    I was glad to support this amendment. Just this weekend I had a former teacher at my old school, ring me in distress over the way she was treated by a hotel in Witney. She’s a very active 90, and was meeting a friend for coffee. She needed a little help in getting up the steps outside the entrance – no handrail. The friend asked at the hotel, to be told “Go round the back”, very brusquely. They couldn’t find the right door. If this amendment had passed, the licensing authority could have told the hotel to put a handrail in if they wanted to keep their licence.

  2. 11/01/2017 at 10:51 pm

    … not as fast as People are “ditching” not only “Labour” …



A tied vote

Lord Norton

There was an interesting result in a division today on an amendment to the Wales Bill.  The vote was tied 222 to 222.  Where there is a tied vote, which occasionally happens, the Lord Speaker, or peer on the Woolsack, has no casting vote.  The rule that determines the outcome is straightforward.  There has to be a majority for a motion to be carried.  As there was no majority for the amendment, it was lost.

1 comment for “A tied vote”

  1. 11/01/2017 at 9:36 pm

    Interesting in a “duellistic”

    “first past the post” horse-racing mobile-society “democracy”,

    an Anne-Robinsonian Pedagogic “Educational” 3-bullet-questions in a row “sudden death” decider;

    a similar “fair-play peace-building”
    soccer penalty ‘shoot-out’

    and a “world-exemplary ‘democracy’ “ping-pong” parliamentary system
    under a Non-Up-Date-able “Monarchic ” constitution …

    don’t you think ?

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BUT  The Longest-Term Future needs to be "fully grasped" 
-more so immediately now than  the proverbial "nettle".


we need to remain waiting a much longer time now 

than ever before back to 'Lords of the Blog' beginning in 2008

currently fo Baroness Deech, to publish at least one comment 
that "she and Hansard have been sitting on for days-on-end"

namely :-

 Response to Baroness Deech's Disabled Shame post, today Friday, on :-


["]   So what is the bigger Picture ? 

Why can neither the Parliament nor The People start calling spades spades ?


What is this Nation of Exemplary-British-People –

‘needing’ now more than 5-times its fair share of this Living Earth’s  Lifesupports ?


What ‘our’ and ‘ its’ ‘Greater-Purpose’ ? -

that Britain’s very-best governing few ‘need’ so may human-livings each, and unchanged-ably, non-up-datingly constutionally-so ?  yet can not even call a vital Committee by its straightforward Function, 

‘cowardly’-concealing its nature behind already-outdated and esotericly senseless terms and title,

and by so neglecting the clear-truth and further foggily-conflating the Peoples’-Mind,  allowing the spectre of a corrupt Parliamentary Age to still insidiously ‘Rule-the-Roost’ -

as a Privately-Established Oligarchic Monarchy posing as a world-leading  Participative Democracy ?


If it’s a Scrutiny Committee,  call it a Scrutiny Committee;

and make it include “last minute”  inputs and facilitations from the British Citizenry too.


There is no democratic-participation, whatsoever*,   in the vital essentials of Life on this planet and Preparation for our Next.


“Select” committees were only recently terminated from being

‘Ruling Government Selected  Members Only’,

 in order to more effectively and all-roundly Scrutinise an Issue over ‘Needs’ and  ‘Hows’ ,

and over consequent  Rights-to-Satisfy that Need via that ‘How’, weren’t they ?


And there’s another Establishmentarian Neglect: 

 why no "‘Method III No-Lose Needs & Hows Recognising and ‘win-win-win’ Cooperative Problem Solving" ? – 
not even at Parliamentary levels,  let alone ‘down-here’ amongst so many truly needy and obviously “lost” People ?


What is the Dog-in-the-Manger that always so ‘constitutionally’ usurps our Real-Life Needs, Hows, and Rights ? 

 as is being done suppressively to so many and distressed branches of disabled people ?


Parliament:- “Words” (of ‘God’ included) that are deliberately obscuring Real-Life and  Struggling-Needs of both People and this Earth’s Lifesupports  ?



* Do you, for example, Baroness, really want to continue having us “free” people sitting up all night 
‘interacting’ our ‘hard-won’ savings with television Word-Guessing Games and “chat with this Marvellous-Person for only a pound a minute” –  ?

whilst “sparing” us the “bother” of being ‘actively participatively-democratic’ 
by only “inviting” us to put an erasable pencil-cross on a scrap of recycled paper, 
for a few minutes only, once every five years , 
and leaving the Main Governance Work to the “socially-mobile” ?   ["]

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We,  'Earth-citizen-like',  
contribute on a weekly 

(via Life-Refreshment and One-Human-Living administrator John Miles)




["]  Maybe what is needed would be something like a world-wide 
continuous Headline-to-the-Public by the United Nations Itself, and
"compulsorily" for all Countries, Authorities 
and 'Powers-That-Be-At-Any-and-Every-Level'




to allow and support :-




"The United Nations is now trialling two-way direct e-linking to each person all-around-this-Earth, to collect a "census" of 
1. "What I Am Safely Able-to-Be-Doing 
and/or Am Doing 
To Save Myself and to Save this Earth's Lifesupports, is :- " 
2. "What I Need, Want, or Wish To Be Doing But  [because of _ _ _]  Can Not, is :-"  ["]  

The Highspeed Train, new technological 'miracle', is  still "on the cards".

Lord Berkeley is hosting an online commentary. 


Here is a previous reply-submission:

May I think your 'track' to be right, Wendy M. Grossman -

but to also think that by wanting "more frequency" you would have us continue missing the vital longest-term question of

"How longest-term sustainworthily-sustainable are even the present trains likely to remain ?"

[There is a quite extensively staffed and funded academic 'movement'
in favour of "De-Growth" - but it appears to be 'toothless' ongoingly ].

However, taking-in such documentaries as "How Many People Can Live On Planet Earth"
will not need GCSE level comprehension to both "feel" and cognitively-recognise
the ultimately-serious threat to our Human Race survival,

and threat to most other Lifeforms on this Earth, of our continuing blindly-careering Civilisations;
as well as their 'runaway destruction' of Earth's non-renewable Minerals and Fuels in-the-ground,
which is also 'helping' the increasingly lethal toxification of air-to-breathe and ofclean-water-to-drink,
and is "supporting" the over-population"horrific-disaster-in-the-making" ].
So I think we need to really "pull in our horns" and
"over the top" as it may seem,
radically-re-shape, re-quantify and re-qualify all extant Civilisations,
and here-and-now single-focus tackle our Britain-Internal Ecolonomic Needs:
radically so, and immediately possible to begin, are
Rural Re-Settlement into Cooperative-Longlease-Tenancies 'Kitchen-Garden' Housing Estate Trusts -

where Local Ecolonomics (including the correct 'established' Micro-Economic equations, of which there are a few)
needs to make long-distance travel, both for 'business' and for 'holidays,
a "deluded-guzzle-of-the-past"'-

and Earth's Fuel and Vital Resources, as well as Humankind's bio-technological fitness-for-purpose, will be conserved.

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